Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are nothing more than puppets. They both call for a sales tax and VAT tax on an already overtaxed population! Hrmm... where have I heard this before? OH YA, Nancy Pelosi.

This is the last straw from Glenn Beck. He claims to be a libertarian, yet he knows nothing about economics or the philosophy.

Watch this video:
http://www.infowars.com/beck-oreilly-call-for-more-taxation/
http://www.infowars.com/beck-oreilly-call-for-more-taxation/
http://www.infowars.com/beck-oreilly-call-for-more-taxation/
http://www.infowars.com/beck-oreilly-call-for-more-taxation/

I believe I watched the actual show(one of them, anyway), ....and btw, I DO listen to Alex, when I have time. lol. Well, I heard Glenn talking about it with some expert....and I thought the point of the entirety of what he was suggesting was, "Do a vat or Flat tax....and SCRAP everything else they're planning..." I'll have to look into this more(thanks for the links), because I am in NO WAY beholden to Glenn or ESPECIALLY Bill, whom I find sits on the fence, quite too often. You know, being a fan of "The Great One"....I recall hearing his somewhat ambiguous comments about Glenn, (ok,... not so ambiguous, lol...."the BLUBBERER at 5", something like that, hahaha.)

I hope he clarifies this, quickly, Glenn, I mean. Because, most of what I've seen on his show, exposing links of corruption, Chicagoan Politics in the White House, Global Warming, etc....it's been pretty shattering to the Liberal Progressive Agenda...NO? However, again, he's not where I get my news or articles, most often....so in the end, I'm really more so interested in ACCOUNTABILITY, know what I mean? Not been a big fan of Bill for a while. Another btw, ....Isn't Hannity #1 now?

Alex sure is a FIRECRACKER, eh? lol. Watching him the other day, he was singing that "Prison Planet!!!!" song at the top of his lungs, then doing the Potus Nominee yelp, "YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", hahahah!

Ok, I watched the clip and Beck suggests freezing spending and (not or) having a value-added-tax for two years only with all the money going to pay down the deficit. That doesn't sound that radical to me. It made sense. He also said that we are at a fork in the road causing the destruction or restoration of our country, depending on which way we go.

I've been slowly moving away from all mainstream news, including Fox. They just seem to miss the root of the problem(s) for me. Alex Jones is a great source as are many others. One has to be discerning, and willing to look at things with an open mind, and be willing to do alot of homework. Going from a diet of main stream press to alternative sources like the afore mentioned, for example, can be difficult if you are predisposed to dogmatic opinions on how the world actually works.

I understand the beef between AJ and Beck. AJ thinks he doesn't go far enough, and I think he's right. Beck stops at the point where he would call out some of the forces BEHIND the scenes which pull the strings which make the world dance.

I do like the work Beck is doing, however, and I'm not willing to say that he's part of the establishment because of that.

Not only is it our fiscal policy that's the problem, but it's our monetary policy along with our overreaching foreign and domestic policy commitments. i know it was a 3 minute segment on the Factor, but just saying "freeze spending" (a pretty broad, cliche thing to say) while proposing more taxes is just ridiculous.

It's only a 'broad, cliche" thing to say because we've allowed the power to be completely RAPED from us, Michael. Are you saying it's impossible to, 'FOR THE MOST PART', freeze spending? WHY? That's exactly what they need to do....in fact, if they would take some of the, what, 3 TRILLION in spending that's hardly even been drawn from, and FREEZE IT...we could find a MUCH better way to restore our Republic,....it's called CAPITALISM...and of course, I'm not suggesting that we can completely eliminate taxes if we'd just stop spending......for the time being. However, wouldn't a flat or vat tax make more sense than this pork riddled CRAP, filled with special favors, breaks and hand outs that keep accompanying EVERYTHING they propose or pass? 2,400 pages of crap they've never read? "People of the World, Unite", being a SLOGAN that is quickly being adored MUCH of the world, which will also, through Cap and Trade, ALL BUT DESTROY THIS PLANET'S HUMANITY?

Yes, ....STOP SPENDING, ALL OF IT! 300,000,000 to her, 50 BILLION for a California Wine train......GOOD LORD, MAN...YES, STOP SPENDING, PERIOD! .....then let the economy weed out the 'HANDS OUT ACROSS AMERICA' by strict standards,... create REALISTIC mandates, like, "WORK OR YOU WILL NOT GET NUTTIN"- Until PROVEN you are incapable of doing so,.....FIX MEDICARE AND MEDICAID,(there's what, 90 BILLION, a year?), ...NO RAISES TO ANY CONGRESSMEN OR SENATORS, PERIOD, until this mess is at least on 'the decline'-WE, THROUGH PRIVATE, INDEPENDENT economic scholars, should decide what 'PAY' they get....and of course, it should be decent-but GOOD LORD, .... NO AIRPORT FUNDS FOR MURTHA, etc., etc., etc....., NOTHING!

Michael....I'm sorry, please believe me, I'm NOT directing any of this at you, and I TOTALLY understand your point. It's simplistic...I'm just, well, being a native Californian...watching this state turn into THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MEXICALIFORNIA, ...AHHHHH, but the bottom line of this WHOLE dilemma is this; ...

IT'S OUR MONEY, THEY'VE WASTED AND SQUANDERED IT FOR YEARS, THEY'VE PUT USSSSSSSSS, THE PEOPLE, IN NEARLY IRREVERSIBLE DEBT......and if I were allowed to manage this, I would CUT THEM OFF, ALL OF THEM! The only AMENDMENT to the constitution that should be allowed, at this point? FORCE POPULAR OPINION, weighed with PRIVATE elected oversight by the people, to decide WHAT CONGRESS CAN OR CAN'T PASS, after it's written......because, let's be honest, THEY'RE NOT EVEN READING IT! TRIPLE THE DEBT, IN ONE YEAR....THAT'S MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT????????

Sorry for rambling....I just want to add, ....if Beck or ANYONE get in the way of Protecting the Constitution or it's Values and Standards? LET'S LET EM KNOW IT! Unlike many liberal friends of mine, I don't care WHO TRIES TO SCREW ME out of my liberty....THEY'RE DRAWING BACK NUBS!

Almost forgot......INVESTIGATE THE FED, ALREADY! Can you imagine, Michael? Holy Moly....NO WONDER THE Soros', Rothschild's, Rockefeller's and MANY MORE from both sides of the isle don't want that...it would ROCK this country, I have no doubt! That is one case where I am in 100% AGREEMENT with Ron Paul....'AUDIT THE FED, NOW!'...and stop printing money that doesn't exist.....I'll rough it for a while for my kids.....and their kids....wouldn't most anyone here?

Everyone might want to be listening to Mark Levin.....he's not a huge fan of Beck, either....but not totally dismissive of him. Anyhow, he is SO RIGHT about everything I've heard from him...and his book is FANTASTIC....best I've read in years. "Liberty vs. Tyranny"

Hey there, Bret.....How are you, brother?

You know, I'm not trying to rebut what you've said here, specifically "AJ thinks he doesn't go far enough", etc.....But, while I'm not speaking for Beck, OBVIOUSLY, lol, I think he's a LOT more confrontational and accusatory than Bill,.....but like Hannity, I'm guessing that Beck is more inclined to discuss FACTS, Quotes and clear cut relations that the majority of the country seem to declare they're ready to tackle.....along with staying focused on "What can WE DO, as AMERICANS" to stop this train wreck...and I think he's arguably done plenty to 'wake up a few people'. As it is, MILLIONS of Democrats are actually watching him and deciding for themselves....but as he's said, "if I take on this Birth Certificate issue, many others, that wont necessarily result in getting them out, even if proven....I'll lose half of the people who are just getting on board". Anyway, time will tell, eh? I agree with Michael for the most part...this is complicated, our plight...but we CAN simplify it, if we can just get the "tools" outta there.

Mark, I agree with you once again. Mark Levine is brilliant. His book Liberty and Tyranny is a great read.

The Fed is corrupt, but its corruption is so institutionalized it is legal. Most people do not know it is a private corporation unlike any other.

I ask your consideration that to generalize by family name may be
sometimes harmful generalizations. What I mean is that for many in these families or whom share the family name are not dishonest or beneficiaries of other family members corruption. There are guilty individuals of many families, but not guilty families.

I came to this realization when I met some Rothschild's who are neither wealthy nor powerful in my home town (very good people). While I have not met them, it seems likely there are Soros and Rockefellers out there who also are also not wealthy or powerful or that may be, but not from corrupt means.

G_d Bless