Agnostic attorney Clarence Darrow once said, "I don‘t believe in God, because I don’t believe in Mother Goose."
Now those controversial words and others are being used in part of a new push to promote the thinking of atheists and agnostics. Dozens of new ads will target the people of San Francisco.
The campaign is the brainchild of the Midwest-based Freedom from Religion Foundation, which represents some 14,000 nonbelievers across the country. The association has been working since 1978 to keep church and state separate.
The ads are already popping up on city buses. The group ordered 75 exterior signs with messages like "Imagine No Religion" and Mark Twain's "Faith is believing what you know ain’t so."
Both of those messages will be printed against a stained glass-looking backdrop. Several hundred additional signs will be placed inside buses with longer messages.
Dan Barker, a foundation co-president, said the bus signs are a sign of the times.
"Those of us who are nonreligious– freethinkers, atheists and agnostics–are a growing force in America," Barker said.
According to the foundation, San Francisco is one of the cities with the fewest believers and the fewest churchgoers
wait, i thought you all were for free speech. LOL
And you just stated, Patrick, on another thread that Christians who preach to you about not being religious make you "nervous"... Do you see now why we must take a stand openly? We are being fought day and night to keep quiet by those who seek to stifle our freedom.
As I said in the other thread, Patrick, "The kingdom of God suffers violence...and the violent take it by force"... that is what God says about it. Sounds like "fight for your rights" to me...in King James english. And I shall...unashamedly!
PS...just a thought... but why is it "free speech" when atheists want to silence Christians...and homosexuals want to parade their perversion in the streets... but it's "bashing...and preaching that makes you nervous...and inapproprate speech and hate speech...if a Christian wants to pray in public or share the gospel with someone at work? Can you even see the hypocracy of that??? no...don't answer... I'm sure you can't. Kate~
So it's not Christians who demand that those who disagree with them shut up - it's atheist who demand that Christians shut up.
Jonathan, right you are my friend. Oh and San Fran, yuck it up all you want because at the last day...you lose. I pray you come around before then.
Kate I'll gladly answer.. .when those other groups use free speech in the way you describe, I can write them off. I don't see them as a threat to me (and in the case of what goes in S.F. well I just laugh) But when Christians start invoking God to justify the righteousness of their actions, well they just scare the hell out of me, I'm not afraid of their speech so much as what actions their speech can incite, like say the murder a doctor who performs abortions. (yes it's an extreme example, but it's kinda like the fear you guys have of muslims)
You guys??? You mean you aren't scared of that, Patrick? Do you know that they consider YOU and "infidel" and would sooner cut your head off than look at you for it?? If you are not afraid of that...than you don't understand how serious they are.
As for "invokeing God to justify our actions"... I think you are confused. Christians do not invoke God to do anything. What they do for "righteousness sake"...or for the sake of RIGHT... is what they determine by their own consciouses. For instance, If someone had a knife to your throat and I had a gun... I would command the man with the knife to put it down, and I would do that ONCE...only...before I shot him for attempting to take an innocent mans life. I would not invoke God for that. It would be a matter of consciounse for me. And I wouldn't hesitate. I believe in doing what's RIGHT.
I think that is what the man did that shot the late term abortion doctor. And I have to tell you...I'm not sorry he did it. That evil so called 'doctor' was killing the most innocent of human beings on a regular basis with a procedure that is so vile I hesitate to even describe it here. But I will... it involves turning the baby backwards as they are being born, so they are breach...then just before they totally born...except for their little head...the "doctor"...jabs a pair of scissor like intstruments in to the back of their neck...put a syringe into the whole and sucks the baby's brains out. It is now illegal in most states...but not Kansas...where he was practising.
And if you don't think he should have been stopped by any means possible... then you probably would have been one of the silen people on the trains that passed by the gas chambers and crematoriums in Germany every day, while thousands of innocent men, women and children were hideously murdered daily.... Kate~
wait, i thought you all were for free speech. LOL
And you just stated, Patrick, on another thread that Christians who preach to you about not being religious make you "nervous"... Do you see now why we must take a stand openly? We are being fought day and night to keep quiet by those who seek to stifle our freedom.
As I said in the other thread, Patrick, "The kingdom of God suffers violence...and the violent take it by force"... that is what God says about it. Sounds like "fight for your rights" to me...in King James english. And I shall...unashamedly!
PS...just a thought... but why is it "free speech" when atheists want to silence Christians...and homosexuals want to parade their perversion in the streets... but it's "bashing...and preaching that makes you nervous...and inapproprate speech and hate speech...if a Christian wants to pray in public or share the gospel with someone at work? Can you even see the hypocracy of that??? no...don't answer... I'm sure you can't. Kate~
Kate... that was gross... lol But I appreciate it because it bring a much more real representation of what that "doctor" was doing to babies. It makes me sick!
Sorry, about that, David... It's just so weird the way people can hear the term "partial birth abortion"...and not get that the baby is partially born...when it is so called "aborted"... that is not abortion. Abortion stops the progress of something, whether it is a mission...or a pregnancy.... what partial birth abortion is...is simply cold blooded, evil, murder while a child is totall born, except for their head! Some of them even manage a little gasp or cry as it's being done...it is too horrible but people are so jaded...they can't hear...they can't see... they can't feel...what that little baby feels. Kate~