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DHS and US Military Make Final Preparations Before Announcing Martial Law

Rita Monceaux
- 1122 posts
August 14, 2012 2:23:34 PM EDT

http://youtu.be/GwKGNO59pqA
Rita Monceaux
- 1122 posts
August 14, 2012 2:24:51 PM EDT

Ann Barnhardt - A Matter of Record , guess this is another conspiracy theory.
Robert Bassett
- 84 posts
August 14, 2012 4:07:04 PM EDT

Ann tells the truth nobody wants to face..Great clip Rita
Rita Monceaux
- 1122 posts
August 14, 2012 9:54:25 PM EDT

and why would they have to have "hollow points" to target practice? use your heads folks.
Rita Monceaux
- 1122 posts
August 14, 2012 9:55:17 PM EDT

thanks Robert, there are none so blind as those who don't want to see.
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 12:00:10 AM EDT

the view from the sea....or how many bullets does it take to kill a tornado ? while it makes for good conspiro-enertaiment news the nws buys 46k bullets (oh my!) it's worth nothing what is not being noted. the story is first technically inaccurate as reported in the washington times , which i will comment on later.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/14/national-weather-service-ammo-request-error/
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 12:12:37 AM EDT

so the scare tactic was an actual clerical error well...........what's worth noting is what is not being noted;each government agency has their own law enforcement agency within their agency. and has for a long long time. irs has criminal investigation, ss ( opps.....a freudian slip.. i meant the secret service )has theirs, the usaf has a civilian law enforcement agency, and the list goes on and on and on and on. this does not include the" contract armed security personnel" that are also used by every agency with-in our government including our armed forces
" got two good eyes , but you still don't see "-casey jones
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 12:33:44 AM EDT

Verbal: [to Kujan] If I told you the Loch Ness monster hired me to hit the harbor, what would you say?-the usual suspects.usually outrageous claims are not backed up by verifiable facts. on examination A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass.
A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
The National Weather Service is is one of six scientific agencies that make up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration ion requires a response by August 21. https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=bfd95987a1ad9a6dfb22bca4a19150cb&_cview=0
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 1:04:02 AM EDT

the reason i have attached the above link is that as an open-ended federal contract, which in simple terms is a agreement to supply UP to 46k bullets as with all open-end fed contracts to take place OVER a 5 year period at x amt of price , there by locking in a set price . after-all the government doesn't want to waste taxpayers money........does it ? this was the same agreement the dhs made in it's contract as well.
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 1:16:59 AM EDT

rita , you raise a valid point regarding the use of hollow point bullets which i will address tomorrow . we must "question everything" in order to separate fact from fiction.
Verbal: [to Kujan] If I told you the Loch Ness monster hired me to hit the harbor, what would you say?-from the movie "the usual suspects "
Vincent Ross
- 62 posts
August 15, 2012 1:17:39 AM EDT

Lol.. why am I not surprised that a government agency would make such a stupid error. I have little doubt that it probably WAS an error, too, rather than whatever conspiracy things someone may dream up. 46k bullets is not a lot if their goal were something truly nasty.

I am more interested by the 450 million hollow point rounds ordered by DHS. That is MORE than would be needed to kill every single citizen of the country, and all the immigrants right along with them. But a friend of mine did suggest one possibility which is not quite so nefarious as mass genocide, and that is simply that they are trying to create a shortage, and drive up the cost of ammo. But even that is waaaay out of line.
Vincent Ross
- 62 posts
August 15, 2012 1:26:17 AM EDT

The main thing which makes me most skeptical (though I am NOT saying I think that such theories are necessarily wrong) is the sheer scale of governmental incompetence, and inability to keep a secret. The only way 2 people can keep a secret in D.C. is if one of them is dead.
Chris ...Just Chris
- 2953 posts
August 15, 2012 4:16:29 AM EDT

They must have seen that we were on to them. They canceled the request. https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=4370194550dd10f4aae476069e17eb85&_cview=0 Happy days!
Deleted Member
August 15, 2012 11:39:50 AM EDT

My husband works for the feds. He would tend to agree with you on government incompetence. :-)
Robert Bassett
- 84 posts
August 15, 2012 12:11:04 PM EDT

Now, the SSA request for ammo
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=6c39a2a9f00a10187a1432388a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0&fb_source=message
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 12:22:59 PM EDT

leave the gun take the cannoli-clemenza
chris , while i have to confess i haven't read this cancellation notice , let's assume for the moment the solicitation is still in effect, it appears that the nws is ordering ammo , in fact a whole lot of it. what would the nws need ammo for ....shooting runaway tornado's ?or cover-up a secret geo-engineered weather plot ? or will they also be part of a nation -wide hit squad aimed at hitting local tv weather-men? which is what some claim in their attempts to raise fear-monkering among us, or at the very least .........raise their viewership and more than likely boost their own advertising revenue.. ..nothing is quite that exciting. on further examination look at where the ammo is actually going , you'll see they all say: doc, noaa, nmfs ole, ned. these agencies as well as nws fall under the noaa. the nmfs is in charge of protecting ( as directed by congress) to protect our fisheries and marine sanctuaries and habitats from alaska to the keys-from the great lakes-to the beautiful nor cal. coastline.the ole is not a salsa-dance term but it's the office of law enforcement ..the reson for the requested amount of ammo "Agents and officers are required to have 200 rounds in his or her duty bag, and twice-a-year firearm qualification and training calls for agents to use another 500-600 rounds. In addition, firearms instructors with more than one pistol may need more rounds in a year. In 2011, the guidance was that each agent and officer would need 700 rounds per year to meet these requirements." ........" The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement personnel in their firearms qualifications and training." that does not include the other agents that fall in the other alphabet umbrella agencies of the noaa.Verbal: Well you tell me, Agent Kujan. If I told you the Loch Ness monster hired me to hit the harbor, what would you say? -from the movie the "usual suspects"
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 1:30:03 PM EDT

in sicily, women are more dangerous than shotguns.-the godfather
the use of yellow-jacketed hollow point bullets with-out going into great detail is used by law enforcement agencies 'round the world for a variety of reasons , it's accuracy on hitting it's target, it's is less likely to de-fragment when hitting it's target, less likely to ricochet or bounce and possibly hitting an un-intended CIVILIAN target . the use of these bullets is for safety as well as accuracy and because of it's velocity able to put down it's target with the least amount of bullets used.
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 1:44:44 PM EDT

The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. robert heinlein
the tendency to latch on to a piece of misinformation and endlessly circulate it as authoritative. Nowhere is this more prevalent then on the subject of "dum-dum hollow point bullets" and their being "banned by the Geneva Convention."

Sound familiar?

It's not accurate, of course, but few, if any, ever make the effort to find out the true facts for the simple reason that the foregoing has so often been casually repeated by "gun persons," that, in keeping with "Goebbels' Big Lie" theory, it has taken on the aura of a verity.

For openers, "dum-dum bullets," named for their arsenal of origin in a town near Calcutta, India, are soft-nosed projectiles, not hollow points1. And their deployment under the "Laws of War" is proscribed by a "Declaration on the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body" adopted at the First Hague Peace Conference of (29 July) 1899 which states:
The Undersigned, Plenipotentiaries of the Powers represented at the International Peace Conference at The Hague, duly authorized to that effect by their Governments < further >ttp://www.thegunzone.com/TAL08-2006.pdf
latitude 38
- 15 posts
August 15, 2012 1:50:27 PM EDT

Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of event- robert heinlein
according to wikipedia;;The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibited the use in international warfare of bullets that easily expand or flatten in the body.[3] This is often incorrectly believed to be prohibited in the Geneva Conventions, but it significantly predates those conventions, and is in fact a continuance of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams, as well as weapons designed to aggravate injured soldiers or make their death inevitable. NATO members do not use small arms ammunition that is prohibited by the Hague Convention.
Despite the ban on military use, hollow-point bullets are one of the most common types of civilian and police ammunition, due largely to the reduced risk of bystanders being hit by over-penetrating or ricocheted bullets, and the increased speed of incapacitation. In many jurisdictions, even ones such as the United Kingdom, where expanding ammunition is generally prohibited, it is illegal to hunt certain types of game with ammunition that does not expand.[4][5] Some target ranges forbid full metal jacket ammunition, due to its greater tendency to damage metal targets and backstops
Wendy Wagner
- 1 posts
September 2, 2012 11:23:21 PM EDT

I have been looking to Israel as the fulcrum for the tipping point. I believe the reason for trying to delay action by Isreal is because the ocupant can't call sides till November 7th. What happens after he tells us we are siding with Iran, I cant begin to guess, but somewhere in there is martial law.

Report from Montana; I guess "they" watched Red Dawn to.

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