You have the right to remain silent on this issue if you like, but you do NOT have the right to silence any one else.
That's funny Mary, because I haven't seen nor advocated shutting people up about anything. What I have seen is a lot pf people running around in essence saying "if you aren't a birther, you aren't a patriot!" That is not exactly open debate or discussion and frankly is an comment designed to shut others up. (In fact, you choose the less than admrable way of addressing me despite me being respectful to you.)
Anthony, I'll email Dr. Keyes and ask him about the 2004 incident again. I'll use your posts to confront him and let you know what his response is.
You can forward it to me as I would like to see the headers on the email. Not that I don't trust you, but given the level of deception on this issue (whether you are a birther or not) it is reasonable to ask to see the response and verify the header.
Anthony - Regarding your October 31, 2011 10:15:48 PM EDT following questions:
Nathan - Where is "natural born citizen" defined in the Constitution? Who has the authority to define it?
Anthony - I could ask the same type of question, "Where is 'life' defined in the US Constitution?"
First of all, the US Constitution was never intended to be a dictionary. As with many forms of literary work, readers and judges have to ascertain the meaning of words and phrases, not only by context, but also by historical precedence. For your own information about what constitutes the presidential requirement of "natural born citizen," please reference the following:
"Natural Born Citizen - A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers"
"The Logical analysis of a Natural Born Citizen and the clear and compelling evidence that Barack Hussein Obama, II is not a natural born citizen:"
Secondly, you ask: "Who has the authority to define it?" Personally, I think that you ask a misplaced question. Since the Constitution is the authority, the question would be more appropriate, this way: "How has the the Constitution's authority, defined the "natural born citizen" presidential requirement?"
Please allow me to introduce a Scriptural analogy. Although analogies aren't always perfect, they do make salient points.
The following observation and [wrong] conclusion could be had: "I don't see the word, 'Trinity' in the Bible. Therefore the teaching of the Trinity is not defined." Now, that conclusion is unwarranted and illogical, to say the least. If dictionary definitions are available for everything under the sun, then why should any of us think or educate ourselves? All we would need is a dictionary definition for everything.
What I am saying, is there are many things in which we do not have dictionary answers to, but, we have clear and definitive answers based upon context, historical background, and legal precedence. And, so, with the term, "natural born citizen."
Finally, there is legal precedence for the "natural born citizen" status. The first aforementioned website I posted in this answer, is owned and operated by a competent lawyer. It is there for information and education. Feel free to go there and further your understanding of the Constitutional meaning of "natural born citizen."
Diana Shifley said:
Rich, if we want to make sure obama gets re-elected, all we have to do is split the vote on a third party. Been there - done that - never again.
That's true Diana and that is why I am against third parties, unless they are leftist and splitting the Democrat vote.