RR Rocks said:
DH, know what got let in, how about what got left out? GAWD I do hate the hand of mankind.
The Lost Books of the Bible may shed light on that.
Burke Easter said:
Are those like the lost books of the Constitution? But by all means if you want to create a new religion with different books of the Bible go right ahead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Books_of_the_Bible_and_the_Forgotten_Books_of_Eden
Supposedly they are portions of the Bible omitted.
There are no "missing" portions of the Bible. There are writings from antiquity that were deemed inappropriate for the canon. If the texts in question could not be attributed to an acceptable author or they were not dated enough to be scripture, then they were not included in the canon. The story of their "missing" from the canon is really a 20th century sort of thing.
Eric Lundrbeck said:
Burke Easter said:
Are those like the lost books of the Constitution? But by all means if you want to create a new religion with different books of the Bible go right ahead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Books_of_the_Bible_and_the_Forgotten_Books_of_Eden
"Supposedly they are portions of the Bible omitted."
So you are saying they were in the Bible and someone took them out? There are many religious writtings about Jesus from antiquity that were not included in the Bible nor is there any natural law that I am aware of that states they must be included in the Bible.
Alien Overlord said:
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof, so where is it? What piles of evidence show that god exists?
"And you will be hearing of wars an rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines, and pestilence's and earthquakes. "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs." Matthew 24:3-8
Looking at the prophecies in the Bible, those that have already came true and those that are coming true everyday and reported in the media, should at least give room for thought.
Keith Smith said:
If the existance of God was put on trial in a court of law today, the defence would have to provide witnesses to their cause. The Bible is full of witnesses who have seen or heard God.
To play Devils Advocate, the atheists could simply state that those witnesses were simply nuts and of course they would science at their disposal to try and prove such.
politicalatheist cooper said:
,thats like not believing air exsists,or cells in our bodies dont exsist lol,what cause u cant see them pfftt.its called faith to those who dont get it yet!..can i get an AMEN!..
Once again, playing Devils Advocate here, I don't think the analogy quite works well considering we have technology that can see air molecules and cells, plus there's no faith that these things exist. We know they do. Perhaps a better example would be the burgeoning quantum physics that is unraveling even stranger things that boggle the mind. Maybe in the future we'll be able to detect the huge energy signature that a deity would put off.
Diana Shifley said:
We know that they exist? - I have never seen either one. I need to trust that those who claim to have seen them are telling the truth. I believe the fact that the universe doesn't fall apart and life exists as 'proof' that God is.
All you have to do, in order to see cells or molecules is to simply search the web. And if you can't believe the scientist, how can you believe the priest who says God has spoken through him? Faith in that they are telling the truth.
Daniel Geer said:
But to claim that the physical disproves the metaphysical is absurd. Even the ancients knew better. It is a double edged sword. Physical cannot prove spiritual nor can spiritual prove physical. Together, they do enormous things, which is where faith endures.
I agree, but those in the atheist camp will always state that the burden of truth is on the shoulders of those who state it, which is a cop out by the way. Since, they can't disprove deity they want the believers to prove the existence of deity.
Jill the Free-Range Arizonan said:
Water seems to respond to human emotion, producing different patters in ice crystals, so maybe whatever it is holding the universe together responds to sound as well (prayer? song? Chanting?) Check out this Vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-0ulKgmio&feature=related
I've heard about that, but I've also heard it's bunk too, but those claims came from atheists. Either way, though, it's interesting none the less.
