Bret Major, it is time for you to grow up. I don't remember Jonathan saying anything to or about you that needs an apology. Your response was the biggest sack of dung I've ever read. People will call you names and throw stones all of your life. Man up and get used to it.
Dale and Gail, Jonathan is correct about despising your government. While understandable in a tyranny or dictatorship, here in the USA free elections are still held. So, in essence you have a deep dislike for American voters, because they are responsible for the government you hate.
Jonathan Cousar said:
Gail... I think your statement that you do your research in the library kind of gave it away. I know what's in the library... and it's not really. Thing is if you read left-wing books and don't have the backbone and the knowledge to realize they're written by people who hate America - you could easily be taken in by them. Because they are very persuasive. So if that's what you're immersing yourself in it's not surprising you're coming out with these views. Just know Gail that you're siding with those who DESPISE America. And it's not surprising. The Librarians Association is one of the most left-wing groups in this country and they make sure their libraries are stock full of all kinds of propaganda pieces. That's probably the last place on earth I'd go to get honest information.
So. Jon, where do YOU do your research and get all of your 100 % correct information?
Mary Ann said:
Bret Major, it is time for you to grow up. I don't remember Jonathan saying anything to or about you that needs an apology. Your response was the biggest sack of dung I've ever read. People will call you names and throw stones all of your life. Man up and get used to it.
Well Mary...here you have it:
Jonathan Cousar said:
Anyway, I usually find that the side that has the most contradictions is usually wrong. And in this case - with I believe Bret saying Popular Mechanics was a left-wing outfit and somebody else saying that PM was somehow in bed with the "internationalists" (who I presume are the same ones who control everything)... then we have the spectacle of a left-wing publication supporting ideas that helped a right-wing president. So I don't know... the story on that side's just not gelling.
Bret said:
I didn't say anything of the sort. I've been remarkably consistent with what I've said, and if you'd been reading me instead of reading things into me, then you wouldn't make such a claim.
This is completely ridiculous! You and Jon making outrageous claims about MY beliefs, lumping me in with others, overstating, then understating, twisting, the obfuscating. You're both pathetic. This has degenerated into a stupid schoolyard fight. I didn't ask for an apology because my feeling were hurt, I asked Jonny boy to own up to his putting words in my mouth.
Mary it's time for you to stop being the schoolyard teacher and letting Jonny boy hide under your skirt.
Bret, okay - I do apologize to you. I guess I attributed something to you that you didn't actually say and I apologize for that. It's my faulty memory.
Gail, thank you for your service in Vietnam. I can't take anything away from you on that. I'll just say this about your library research... if you're not being taken in by the left how come you've ended up agreeing with them on so much???? That's a serious question that you should really give a lot of thought to.
I was on one of the "truther" sites the other day and they had this video posted. I wish I could find the specific one because at the top they had titled their post in all capital bold letters:
THIS IS THE TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs&feature=related
How do you guys explain that you're totally in bed with this guy on 9/11???
When I listen to people like this I use it as a yard stick to find out what's NOT true. I know EVERYTHING he says will be a LIE. But you guys listen and think "I know he's a bad guy, but he has a point on this and that." Pretty amazing.
Bret Major said:
So what does the panel think of the testimony of Lt.Col. Schaffer and Rep. Curt Weldon in regards to Able Danger and the 9-11 commission? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSGpc7Ydf4&feature=related
Well Brett they, like us, are obviously in bed with the "real" terrorists and must certainly be America haters also. (wink wink)
Bret Major said:
Thank You Jonathan!
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You're welcome Bret!
To All: I am curious...what do you make of the story of Ruth from the Old Testament? She was a Moabite, not an Israelite. She was a convert. Yet she was included in the Messianic line. She was King David's great Grandmother. So, are King David and Jesus not Jewish because of her presence in their family tree? Hardly!
No matter what you think of Israel (the nation) and their policies and politics, they are still God's chosen people and always will be. There is nothing you can do or say to change that reality.
HMM, I don't remember anyone being against Israel. Let me go back and read again. Well maybe not since I know how Dale and Bret feel about Israel.
Mary Ann Hartzler said:
To All: I am curious...what do you make of the story of Ruth from the Old Testament? She was a Moabite, not an Israelite. She was a convert. Yet she was included in the Messianic line. She was King David's great Grandmother. So, are King David and Jesus not Jewish because of her presence in their family tree? Hardly!
No matter what you think of Israel (the nation) and their policies and politics, they are still God's chosen people and always will be. There is nothing you can do or say to change that reality.
Funny but I dont recall saying anything about Israelites nor the nation of Israel. Perhaps you are confused.
I'm afraid that is the nature of these forums. Since there is no one that oversees them to keep people on point the usually drift all over the spectrum. Check back in a week and we will be arguing about the mating habits of the wombat. lol
Update: 7:53p: I just checked and yes, youtube does have a video on this topic!!
