According to the Bible, church is a discussion between two or more people, or praying to gether, celebrating in his honor. There really is no need to to go to a building and listen to someone carryon about what your doing wrong ,and why you are going to hell.
My dad made me have church every single night ,right at the dining table, reading the bible , every night. Because of that, I remember most what I read in that book, and I know if there is a heaven ,my dad is certainly there.
Two or more gathered in Gods name is church. This means that two or more people talking about God. I believe this and I believe that if you take a look at all the beautiful things here on earth, it is all because of God.
Olli, Is it organized relgion you have a problem with or religion in general? I am just curious. I don't think Diana's comment are anywhere close to what Pat said. Her comments come from her beliefs,
Gail agree with your statement. I don't have problem with neither, I just disagree with creationism.
According to the Bible, church is a discussion between two or more people, or praying to gether, celebrating in his honor. There really is no need to to go to a building and listen to someone carryon about what your doing wrong ,and why you are going to hell.
My dad made me have church every single night ,right at the dining table, reading the bible , every night. Because of that, I remember most what I read in that book, and I know if there is a heaven ,my dad is certainly there.
Greetings Kristina Caler,
Could you please give me those verses in God's Word, which you derive your description of what "church is"?
Also, where do we get the idea of gathering at a building for "church", or worship, what does the Bible say with regards to this?
Why do you question whether or not, Heaven exist, did not Jesus make reference to Heaven in His teachings?
Lastly, who does go to Heaven and why, also, do you believe that Hell exist ?
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Look forward to your response
Bruce // servant to King Jesus............ God's doorway to Heaven
Believing in God is a personal choice. Yes, there is alot of good people in this world. People who are loving and caring to all. Not sure { words standard of good} you have quoted. I am really proud that I was raised to believe in God and the words of the Bible. When you go to church {any church, if it is true to Gods words} you learn about all the miracles God and Jesus have given to all of us through the Bible. We celebrate his words by prayers and songs and knowing he is in our heart and our life. All I was saying is that if DH feels that church is not right for him then when he see the beauty of a tree or hear a bird sing or a child laugh it is all because of God. As far as Jesus....Does DH need him....I believe in the Bible and because I do, the answer is yes. This is a personal choice as well. Everyone has the choice and it is up to how you feel.
Hi Freedom Search,
You are correct, Looking unto God is a personal choice, trusting in Him and His Salvation Plan (Christ's finished work. believing in Him alone for salvation) is a personal choice. There are a lot of good people in this world yes that is true, even many atheist do many great works, however, since they do not believe in God, nor Christ Jesus, what is there position with God?. As for what is meant by" World's standard of good", is that there are two standards of good, one being man's idea of what good is according to the ways of this world, and God's standard of good , which is the perfect Life Jesus lived while here on earth, and what is taught in His Word,...The Bible.
You are right again, DH, does need Jesus, and so does everyone else born in this world. As for God, how and when does He enter in and abide in a person's heart and life, what does the Bible teach about this?
Should DH decide, not to put faith in Christ Jesus, not to trust in the living God and His salvation plan, what does that mean for him, what does the Bible say about this?
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All very important question, and the answers thereof, equally important
Bruce // servant to King Jesus............ who is, God's living Word !!!
Predetermination simply says that, because God is outside time, He knew before who would accept Him and who would not. This in no way interferes with free choice. God knowing what choice we would make still means that we make the choice.
Excellent Diana. Many theological questions would answer themselves if we remember that "God is outside of time". Thank you for reminding us of that. Peace in His Name.
As I have stated before in other forums and discussions, I am not here to "convert" people over to my faith an belief, I just want to give another point of view. Creation vs evolution. They seem to contradict the other. Howerver science can proove the existence of God if those scientists knew where to look.
Time exist onty to mortals. 1st John 1:5 " This is the meassage which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darness at all." Now here light could be "understanding" or "truth." But lets take it literaly. "God is light" or God is a "being of light". Now according to Einstein's theory of relativity, e=mc2, if some one were to reach the speed of light then" time stands still." So if God is light time is irrelevant to him.
When Moses was writing about the creation he was addressing it to a group of people who knew nothing of this. Mind you they were in bondage to Egypt for around 200 years. Things taught to their ancestors were all but forgotten. Moses had to use words easily understandable. One day to us is about 1,000 years to God (2 Peter 3:8...that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years...) to put it in our perspective. The Bible says God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days and rested on the 6th. By who's perspective? Ours or Gods? My dad helped me understand it in this way. "Think of it as 7 time periods. However each time period lasted we don't know because time means nothing to God. Man created time."
Also the Bible doesn't say how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. They were immortal at the time. It could have been thousands or millions of years. We don't know. So all I know evolution happened during the creation.
Do I support the theory that we came from apes? No. The animals came before Adam was created. The Bible saye he was created from the dust. Thats what I believe. Was it in the blink of an eye? I don't think it was. I think Adam evolved.Dust to clay clay to flesh. Just like an embryo evolves to a fetus a fetus to a living thing. Every thing came to be in God's own due time. He is in control.
I do believe in an all powerful God. I also believe when He created all things he also created laws and rules that govern all he has created. The laws of physics if you may. And by creating them he is bound by them. Even a lawmaker has to obey the speeding limit, even if he made the law. Yes I believe the elements obey his will and by creating these laws he knows how they react to one another.
The water to wine miracle. He knows what elements make up wine. Jesus, being taught by His Father ,knew how to use the elements to turn water into wine. Wine being mostly water, was one of the easiest to do for him. How, I don't know or else I would be like God. The walking on water. Another "easy' one. Water goes through all stages: liquid, solid and gas. He just spead up the solid part of it. How, I don't know.
We, as mortals can't even comprehend God's mind. But we often times tell us or think we can. We have but scatched the surface when it comes to understanding God and why things are why they are.
The problem with us mortals is we have put resrtictions on God. God is the same yesturday, today and forever. If He wants to come down off His Celestial throne today and talk to an individual "face to face as he did Moses" ( Exodus 33:11) thats his right. But most people will say "impossible! If any man sees God he will die ( Exodus 33:20). Why does Moses live, but any one else die? Its up to God. For with God nothing is impossible.( Luke 1:37).
If we but study and learn the nature of God, then things start to make sense. We come to an understanding, not necessary a knowlege, of why things are the way they are. For this life is a time to prepare to meet God. The more we study and learn, the more we recognize Him when we meet Him.
