Something's rotten in the Army. That has become crystal clear in the events following terrorist Nidal Hasan's massacre last week of 13 American soldiers.
We've all watched as one alarming piece of information after the other has come out - all pointing fingers of blame to the liberal ideology that has permeated the Army itself.
Here's a little test for you. Which of the following statements were made by the New York Times and which by the military (if any)?
1. "Whatever his possible motives... Major Hasan's life in the military casts light on some of the struggles and frustrations felt by other Muslims in the services."
2. "While our own personal grief and feelings are very very important, we must also consider the grief and feelings of others.
3. "I'm concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against... Muslim soliders."
4. "As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that's worse."
Unbelievably, the last three statements were made by top Army brass. Statement #2 was made by Colonel Michael Lembke, the Army III Corps Chaplain, in his remarks at yesterday's memorial service at Ft. Hood. The last two statements come from General George Casey, the Army's top officer. The same Gen. Casey who was Commander in Iraq until he decided not to support the surge. And the same Gen. Casey who was for early withdrawal from Iraq. Bush replaced him with Gen. Petraeus - who did a much better job.
It has become quite clear since last week that a deadly form of liberalism has infiltrated the Army. A liberalism that is blind to the fact that our mortal enemies are radical Muslims who believe in a theology of jihad. And a liberalism that puts peaceful co-existence with our enemies above saving the lives of our soldiers.
On Monday, Ft. Hood Commander General Cone said that he was unaware that Nidal Hassan had ties to the Islamic jihadist theology of our enemies. But he did say the Army was keeping a careful eye on other members of the Army who might be undergoing "stress". Apparently, the top man at Ft. Hood thinks "stress" caused Hasan to murder 13 Americans and seriously wound 30 others. And he thinks monitoring stressed out soldiers will prevent the next attack.
It makes you wonder if he believes stress caused bin Laden to order those planes to fly into the World Trade Center.
After Obama finished speaking yesterday, most people went on about their business. But if they did they missed something very important. They overlooked disturbing remarks by Army Chaplain Lembke who said:
You could be forgiven for thinking you were watching MSNBC! I'm surprised soldiers didn't get up and walk out in disgust at hearing these words. Because it is these words and the beliefs behind them that led to the preventable murders of those 13 soldiers last week.
These are bizarre words coming from an Army Chaplain. We have to "consider the grief and feelings of others"? Oh, really? What "others"? Grief over these murdered men and women in uniform should be universal. Everyone should share in it. Is he suggesting there are "others" who don't share in this grief? That there are "others" who are sharing in some other grief?
The only "others" who come to mind who might be suffering a different kind of grief would be the terrorist Nidal Hassan, his mother and al-Qaida. (And let's pray that we do everything in our power to increase their grief.) What else could the Army Chaplain have meant? Obviously, he's telling us we must consider the grief of the MURDERER and his Islamic supporters - who are presumably grieving over the fact that he won't be joining his 72 virgins anytime soon; that he wasn't able to murder more Americans; and that he was arrested by and now in the custody of the American aggressor.
What does the Chaplain mean when he says we should pray for the ability to "put aside anger and self-righteous indignation"? Is anger not a legitimate human emotion? Since he's a chaplain, let's look at scripture. Does scripture forbid anger? There's nothing in the Ten Commandments that says "Thou shalt not be angry."
Jesus became angry. Jesus was angered when Lazarus died. Most English translations of John 11:38 say that "Jesus was deeply troubled" when he found Lazarus was dead. However, a more accurate translation of the Greek shows that it means "to snort with anger" and "indignation". So a more accurate translation would be that "Jesus was furious and indignant when he found Lazarus dead." Furious and indignant - the two emotions this Army chaplain says we must pray not to have. Personally, I think we're better off following the example of Jesus.
We must take these statements as a sign of how infiltrated the Army has become with liberalism and its deadly consequences. If the massacre of last week is not enough to wake the Army and the Administration up, then we tragically will have many more of these events in our future.
When your overarching desire is to insure that no hardship ever come to an Islamic member of the military something will have to be sacrificed in order to insure their continuous pleasure. This time it was 13 lives and 30 seriously injured. Forty-three American soldiers were sacrificed because the Army didn't want to upset Muslims by ratting this jihadist enemy out.
Last week's massacre is the strongest possible repudiation of liberalism, and of liberals' belief that if we just stop offending those who hate us, they will leave us alone and let us live in peace.
Liberalism is wrong and we will only live in peace when we abandon it.
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More General Casey remarks
Jesus became angry. Jesus was angered when Lazarus died. Most English translations of John 11:38 say that "Jesus was deeply troubled" when he found Lazarus was dead. However, a more accurate translation of the Greek shows that it means "to snort with anger" and "indignation". So a more accurate translation would be that "Jesus was furious and indignant when he found Lazarus dead." Furious and indignant - the two emotions this Army chaplain says we must pray not to have. Personally, I think we're better off following the example of Jesus.
What????
Last week's massacre is a result of the liberal belief that if we stop offending those who hate us, they will leave us alone and let us live in peace. Liberalism is wrong and we will only live in peace when we abandon it.
I say again WHAT?????
I just fell out of my chair....ouch
Scott, You have this right on the nail.
Our enemies ARE NOT going to treat us with kindness, even if we greeted them with open arms. ISLAM is a CULT OF HATRED. They will not rest until the ENTIRE WORLD bows to MECCA.
Therefore, WE must act accordingly. I had a saying, when I was active duty police. When I was faced with a possible volitale situation. I would tell my partner, "Better him than me".
That is the way I live my life, and there is none of this sissy stuff of turn the other cheek. AN EYE FOR AN EYE, A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.
THE MOTTO FOR OUR MILITARY SHOULD BE, YOU ATTACK US, WE WILL MAKE A PARKING LOT OUT OF YOU TOWN. A bigger force is the only think these idiots understand.
Scott, You have this right on the nail.
Our enemies ARE NOT going to treat us with kindness, even if we greeted them with open arms. ISLAM is a CULT OF HATRED. They will not rest until the ENTIRE WORLD bows to MECCA.
Therefore, WE must act accordingly. I had a saying, when I was active duty police. When I was faced with a possible volitale situation. I would tell my partner, "Better him than me".
That is the way I live my life, and there is none of this sissy stuff of turn the other cheek. AN EYE FOR AN EYE, A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.
THE MOTTO FOR OUR MILITARY SHOULD BE, YOU ATTACK US, WE WILL MAKE A PARKING LOT OUT OF YOU TOWN. A bigger force is the only think these idiots understand.
I could not agree more.
Yeah, it disgusts me too Scott. To hear our own military people saying we have to grieve with the murderer and his family... that's unbelievable to me and it should be disgusting to every American. I'm with you on that.
Nope sorry your not with me you have twisted my words. And I don't know where your faith lies but the message of forgiveness is not disgusting to me it is healing. All have fallin short of the glory of God. And the mortality rate of life is 100%. Sin and suffering grieves our heavenly Father are we then above that? So then does he rejoyce in righteousness is forgiveness and love unrighteous befor anger or is anger unrighteous before forgiveness and love?
Scott, You have this right on the nail.
Therefore, WE must act accordingly. I had a saying, when I was active duty police. When I was faced with a possible volitale situation. I would tell my partner, "Better him than me".
That is the way I live my life, and there is none of this sissy stuff of turn the other cheek.
Sometimes Pollitically Correct should be superseaded by nucular intervention. [:)]
Yeah, it disgusts me too Scott. To hear our own military people saying we have to grieve with the murderer and his family... that's unbelievable to me and it should be disgusting to every American. I'm with you on that.
Nope sorry your not with me you have twisted my words. And I don't know where your faith lies but the message of forgiveness is not disgusting to me it is healing. All have fallin short of the glory of God. And the mortality rate of life is 100%. Sin and suffering grieves our heavenly Father are we then above that? So then does he rejoyce in righteousness is forgiveness and love unrighteous befor anger or is anger unrighteous before forgiveness and love?
Sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words Scott, but I do have some trouble following your writing. So are you saying God celebrates with Nidal Hasan? Are you saying God would ask us to "understand" where he was coming from and not be angry about what he did?
Yes, Jesus was quite angry (and indignant too) when Lazarus died. It's in the Bible... in the verse I quoted. In an unfortunate attempt by translators to make Jesus appear "kinder and gentler" they have mistranslated the Greek word, "embrimaomai" as "deeply troubled". The King James says Jesus was "groaning in himself" - like we groan when we're angry or indignant. The more modern translations have weakened it even more to simply saying he was "deeply troubled". They present Jesus as a man who was not capable of anger. However, that's not how the Bible describes Jesus in this event - in the original Greek.
And in case you didn't read my entire post - I'm finding either a lot of people didn't read it before commenting or they have reading comprehension problems. But what the chaplain said wasn't only about forgiveness. He said we have to understand the grieving that "others" are going through. Well the only "others" that could possibly be are the man who committed the murders and his sympathizers.
No, I'm sorry - as a Christian I have no intention whatsoever of understanding or sympathizing with his grieving. My only intention is to see that he receives the swiftest and most severe punishment possible. AND that we drop this insane politically correct attitude that we can't kick a terrorist sympathizer out of the military (and out of our country as well for that matter) because he's a member of this protected group called Muslim. That attitude made these murders possible. That liberal attitude is the reason these murders took place.
Yeah, it disgusts me too Scott. To hear our own military people saying we have to grieve with the murderer and his family... that's unbelievable to me and it should be disgusting to every American. I'm with you on that.
Nope sorry your not with me you have twisted my words. And I don't know where your faith lies but the message of forgiveness is not disgusting to me it is healing. All have fallin short of the glory of God. And the mortality rate of life is 100%. Sin and suffering grieves our heavenly Father are we then above that? So then does he rejoyce in righteousness is forgiveness and love unrighteous befor anger or is anger unrighteous before forgiveness and love?
Sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words Scott, but I do have some trouble following your writing. So are you saying God celebrates with Nidal Hasan? Are you saying God would ask us to "understand" where he was coming from and not be angry about what he did?
Yes, Jesus was quite angry (and indignant too) when Lazarus died. It's in the Bible... in the verse I quoted. In an unfortunate attempt by translators to make Jesus appear "kinder and gentler" they have mistranslated the Greek word, "embrimaomai" as "deeply troubled". The King James says Jesus was "groaning in himself" - like we groan when we're angry or indignant. The more modern translations have weakened it even more to simply saying he was "deeply troubled". They present Jesus as a man who was not capable of anger. However, that's not how the Bible describes Jesus in this event - in the original Greek.
And in case you didn't read my entire post - I'm finding either a lot of people didn't read it before commenting or they have reading comprehension problems. But what the chaplain said wasn't only about forgiveness. He said we have to understand the grieving that "others" are going through. Well the only "others" that could possibly be are the man who committed the murders and his sympathizers.
No, I'm sorry - as a Christian I have no intention whatsoever of understanding or sympathizing with his grieving. My only intention is to see that he receives the swiftest and most severe punishment possible. AND that we drop this insane politically correct attitude that we can't kick a terrorist sympathizer out of the military (and out of our country as well for that matter) because he's a member of this protected group called Muslim. That attitude made these murders possible. That liberal attitude is the reason these murders took place.
Where did I say God celebrates in any of this??? I don't know that you are having trouble with my words as much as just not reading my words I'm thinking you have a respawnce before you even read others post, because your reply is very far from what has been posted. Bummer :(
I have no idea what RESPAWNCE means!? It's very hard to read your writing with bizarre misspellings such as that.
You said this:
"Let me ask you as a Christian do you really think that vengeful anger is rightous to the sinners soul??? Do you think the death of Lazarus was an advocation for anger?"
So you're asking if vengeful anger is righteous. I don't know who said anything about vengeful anger. I only talked about anger. Where did I say it should be vengeful?
I think the guy needs the quickest and severest punishment possible. But that's not out of spite, that's to show the world that if you murder 13 people and shoot 30 others - that won't be tolerated. And it's also to PUNISH him for what he did.
You also said this:
"So then does he rejoyce in righteousness is forgiveness and love unrighteous befor anger or is anger unrighteous before forgiveness and love?"
Since I couldn't really make heads or tails out of what this meant, I decided you must be suggesting that our anger at this event is somehow unrighteous and that God wouldn't be angry - therefore, maybe he would be celebrating.
Right I don't disagree that this guy deserves swift capital punishment I said that as well. My issue is with your use of scripture to say that the chaplin was out of line or PC in what he said. That seemed to be your main address in the OP. Also the point of my question (whick I see is scrambled as all get out sorry for that when I get ticked my brain moves faster than my hands) was how can you say that example of Jesus supposed anger would justify accussing the chaplin of being PC sorry I don't have quote now but I think you read into the CHAPLIN wrong.
Please respawnce is the incorrect way to spell response SORRY but it was phonetic I know in some place they take offense to that way of spelling. I have notice that you are not only the web czar but the spelling czar as Kevin has come under the same criticism
Yes, my problem is with what the chaplain said. There is nothing in scripture that teaches we shouldn't be angry - VERY ANGRY at a wrongful murder. Jesus was angry just upon seeing Lazarus dead. And he died of natural causes. How much more angry do you think he would have been if Lazarus had been murdered.
And it's outrageous that a U.S. Army chaplain would suggest that we have sympathy for those who committed this crime and those who applaud it. Don't you think that's outrageous Scott?
It's EXACTLY that attitude that made this crime possible! Which was the reason for my post - to expose the deadly LIBERALISM that has drowned the Army in a political correctness that kills.
And it's not what translation I'm using - I looked up the original Greek. You can do it too. The original Greek word means angry & indignant.
And yes, "in some place they take offense to that way of spelling". BECAUSE NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANS!! That's not how it's spelled! In fact, it's not even close. When you write, getting spelling correct is very important. It's called being literate! And it's what makes it possible for others to understand what you're saying.
