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Academics vs. Autodidacts

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    I am becoming really bored with politics, and there is much I wished to contribute to the discussions on Chip's blog post below; but they were way off his topic. It has now veered into territory I find nearly irresistible, discussing the question of the value or necessity of acquiring one's education in college, under the tutelage of pointy-headed professors, instead of practically out in the real world, individually. I hope to lure this important and timely discussion over here...

    I too am an autodidact, and proud of it. I have never spent a day in college, and thank whatever gods may be for any providence behind that good fortune. I don't consider myself uneducated, for lack of a degree; quite the opposite. I consider avoiding the stultifying environs of academia, to have enhanced my level of education, which is still very much an independent work in progress. Besides, I have lived an infinitely more interesting life as an entrepreneur, than I would have as a degreed electronic engineer employee, which was all I ever wanted to be growing up.

    School was always so easy for me that it was boring. Our teacher-centered education system requires that class must be taught at or near the speed of the slowest student, and I was not slow. Even though I was taking all college prep courses, half way through high school I became so bored as a bookish nerd that I took up cars and girls for hobbies, which required a serious job to finance. I soon found I had no time available in my busy schedule to do the homework.  I figured out that as long as I aced their silly tests, they couldn't flunk me for not doing any homework. If I could read the history chapter once and get 100% on the test, why bother with the exercises?

    Thus, my straight 'A' record for ten years degenerated into a 'C' average, much to the consternation of the guidance counselors, who whined that I could be the class valedictorian, if I would just apply myself. Their academic mindset just couldn't comprehend that I was actually learning as much, if not more, than anyone else; just not bothering with the academic busywork, worrying over achievement scores, or seeking honorifics, which seemed to be the focus of their pathetic lives.

    A 'C' average wasn't earning me any scholarships, my parents couldn't afford tuition, and I don't recall college loans even being an option back then. Besides, if I didn't have the inclination to do required homework, what sort of self-discipline would I be able to muster, to even attend classes in college? I decided I needed to grow up a bit first, while earning the GI Bill, by getting my military duty over with before starting college, so I enlisted in the Army straight out of high school. My experiences with college graduate lieutenants therein, were my first clue that attending college might not be all it was cracked up to be.

    My Signal Corps tech schooling and real world experience, on the cutting edge of technology, got me an awesome job after discharge. This soon led to a two-year overseas assignment in the Seychelles Islands, as a tech-rep in the fledgling spy-in-the-sky satellite field. Not only was it nature's last unspoiled paradise at the time, I was earning the equivalent of a little over 700 oz. of gold per year (do the math), and by staying out of the country for at least 512 days, it was all tax free! A country boy doesn't need a degree to know enough to make hay while the sun is shining; the GI Bill and college just had to wait.

    ...more to follow, if there is any interest in furthering the discussion.  ◄Dave►

Comments

99 comments
  • Jeannie Ash
    Jeannie Ash Being grumpy as you get old is a choice. My grandpa, who was already an incredibly marvelous grandpa, became EVERYONE's grandpa and basked in the role. I could point out other perks to perpetual cheer as well, but I already know these may not find the we...  more
    August 13, 2012
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross Maybe so.. but I find it funner to be prickly.
    August 13, 2012
  • Jeannie Ash
    Jeannie Ash Prickly in MY character is not viewed as funny by others. They're either scared for me or of me. :-) Now if I get up in arms on some pseudo Don Quixote bandwagon THAT they find funny...and eminently easy to brush off as 'just Jeannie'. I'm prevented fr...  more
    August 13, 2012
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► Huh? Whoa... there must be some mistake... Jeannie + Invictus = Cognitive Dissonance... my mind is reeling! I don't recall precisely when I memorized it, and adopted it as a very private personal mantra; but it would have been about 45 years ago. I have a...  more
    August 14, 2012 - 1 likes this
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► Of course, I fell in love with it because it spoke to me as a rugged individualist without a master, not from any pro or con religious point of view. It would have been after I gave up on Christianity, but I was very much an agnostic, still seeking 'truth...  more
    August 14, 2012
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► Look, Jeannie, I am really sorry that I allowed my shock at your stated esteem for a favorite poem of mine, which I happen to interpret as a repudiation of major tenets of your faith, to drag us back down into your culture war, with your atheist adversari...  more
    August 14, 2012
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► .
    Before this thread was unfortunately extinguished, some interest was expressed in the relationship between language and thought. Anyone interested in exploring such, would profit from reading:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/magazine/29language-t.htm...  more
    August 16, 2012 - 1 likes this
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross Well, I dunno if this thread has been "extinguished". I cannot speak for others, but I simply had nothing really to add, unless someone says something which sparks further thoughts on my part.

    Very interesting article, Dave. And as you say, i...  more
    August 16, 2012
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross BTW, you are venturing into an arena that I find VERY interesting... etymology. I love learning word origins, as it gives a much deeper understanding of what the words we commonly use really mean.. not to mention, it sometimes involves some interesting h...  more
    August 16, 2012
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross Correction. "as it discusses how various languages is I think there is a bit of a flaw " was meant to say "how various languages alter our thinking is I think there is a bit of a flaw". My mind gets ahead of my fingers now and then. Sorry.
    August 16, 2012
  • Doug Walters
    Doug Walters I never even think about it. In Texas Tex-Mex is the norm. Even a four year old knows what Que Paso means.
    August 16, 2012 - 1 likes this
  • Jeannie Ash
    Jeannie Ash Just letting you know I deleted my post, which seems to have been the last message before Dave commented on this thread's extinguishing. As often is the case, I'm enjoying the heck out of the direction you and Vincent and Doug have taken subsequently.
    August 16, 2012 - 2 like this
  • ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave►
    ThoughtsAloud ◄Dave► I had forgotten that discussion, Vince. We may have gotten off on the wrong foot. I had the distinct impression that I had irritated you with my 'quibble,' when my intent was merely to add some data to your discussion, which supported your thesis. Your re...  more
    August 16, 2012 - 3 like this
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross You said ..."if it adds a new concept, like 'Schadenfreude,' for which there is no word in one's native tongue. Once mastered, whenever one's mind thinks of the concept, that is the word it will serve up to do so with, while it is unlikely for 'nein'...  more
    August 16, 2012
  • Vincent Ross
    Vincent Ross And no... I had not been offended in any way by your comment to my earlier blog. I simply countered with my own perspective. I did not dispute that the term "Progressive" was around early on and was, in an Orwellian manner, switched to "L...  more
    August 16, 2012